We had someone come out and find another perk site for 2 more beds, but it is on the side of the house that we now want to put the addition. There are many factors beyond septic that controls how you can divide. It isn’t like the soils are going to change over time. *We don’t know where exactly we want to build, just somewhere on the 3 acres. > Public Health Inspection of Establishments > How to Disinfect your Drinking Water Well > NC Division of Environmental Health > NC On-site Wastewater Contractors and â¦ That is on the person who is encroaching. Remember though, if you add a bedroom, you then have a house that does not have an adequately approved septic system and that could impact your ability to sell, refinance, or many other issues. In other words, since the fragipan in Dickson soils is generally 30-36″ deep, could the turning of the soil for growing have an adverse effect on soil testing and potential use for a septic system? 5. Timothy, Typically, if there are 2 sites shown, one is the primary system location and the other is 100% reserve. The area is somewhat rocky. If you want a bigger house, you need to talk to the soil scientist and see if there is any other land available that wasn’t mapped. No Sale Selected. We have a property we are wanting to put multiple houses on. If it was from the original plat or listing, then it only serves to raise questions. I’m wondering what the actual rule is on that. Thank you for sharing all of this knowledge and the info you have shared. Will the wetland area effect anything if I build farther away from it? I have neighbors to the right and back of the property. They are costly and they would need to be specifically designed for the site and the house that would be built. We just wanted a place to take our camper and have some livestock., but understand that for reals purposes we might need to have information about an alternative septic system. Help! Not sure if I understood that correctly. As I recall, a perc test is âpermanent,â at least in Tennessee. I am not familiar with those soil types. This may alleviate the problem. Now, on to septics. 2. TIA. What do you think is the best approach to this? Thanks in advance for your help. After another costly repair we finally turned in everything to the county and waited 2 weeks before following up with them to find out where we stood in order to meet with the Board of Health. I have the soil test on file it says it 30-45 mpi. Take what you have and reach out to them. Cheers! Finally, a meeting with planning and zoning as well as the Dept. Driveway culvert sized and approved by Lincoln Co. Hwy Dept., 161 Molino Rd. It may be possible, but it will depend on if there is any un-mapped, usable land in your lot. If they mapped all of the land capable of sustaining a septic system, then I am afraid that the only way you can get it approved for more bedrooms is to gain more land, either fee-simple or via easement, or to have an engineer design you a system to accommodate your desire for a larger home. Iâm not sure what the original owners were thinking. Most of these reports are county-based, have been converted to PDF, and are available from links below. Should be enough road frontage for at least each parcel to have some sort of access. Would the property assessor know where to direct me? But the law states that if you are adding on ( we are wanting to add on living room space) we are required to have a backup system. This adds to the up-front cost. You cannot use one for septic and the other for any other purpose except what it is now. Me and my wife are getting 5 acres from my dads farm in bedford co. with plans to build a shop/house (5000 sq/ft)(3 bdrm). Hello, I inherited land with not house in Tehachapi California . We live on 12 acres. Provided all parcels are 5 acres or more, touch an approved road, and don’t require piping in water or piping out sewer, they do not fall under the purview of the planning commission. Will the whole property, including his grandadâs house, have to be reperced for us to build? There is nothing being disposed on your land. Where can I get a list of soil scientists who do Perc testing in the Roane County/East Tennessee area? And eventually, the basement was finished out with another bedroom and bathroom added. These are designed by the engineer and are signed off by them. If we called it a non-dwelling residence, would a perc site be needed? The issue is that each perc test only represents a 50-foot square, so unless you had a LOT of perc tests, we cannot definitively state that it “doesn’t perc.”. I am just starting to research about septic sites and perc requirements. I would assume they mapped the area that would cost you the least to expand your septic system into. Check with the Department of Environmental Health in your county. You will want to find a localish engineer and call. Are there different stipulation for commercial vs. residential? Her grandparents bought a home on 11 acres in Wilson county Lebanon TN and planned on us getting half the land and putting a home there so my wife can continue to take care of them. These are the far north, south, east, and west coordinates of Lincoln County, Tennessee, comprising a rectangle that encapsulates it. If the single drain field exceeds a certain size, then it may require an engineer to sign off on it. They work by both allowing the water to absorb into the ground and to wick through the ground cover on the surface. As for reporting the Williamson County Department of Environmental Health (I assume that is who you are speaking of), the only recourses I know of is to get in touch with the Tennessee Department of Environmental Conservation (TDEC) and talk with them or you can contact the County Mayor or the Attorney General for the State of Tennessee. Contact a local soil scientist and explain what you are trying to do. If your soil scientist has stated that there is not adequate soil on 11 acres for 2 houses, then your next recourse would be to contact a civil engineer and discuss alternate sewage disposal options. It is not the responsibility of a surveyor (or anyone else for that matter) to protect and replace corners when they are damaged or removed. Was that the case? Every region has it’s own and besides that, I am not a soil scientist. The house was originally built in the 50âs when no codes or standards were quite in place. Not exceptionally expensive but more costly than if you didn’t have to have one. 4. I read it is required to have a backup site as well. Please reach out to the one in your county and see what they want, specifically. If the soil type is better than 75 mpi, then there is no required perc test. Their decision will be based on soil conditions and proposed building size. If anyone is going to finance their construction, I would suggest encumbering the least amount of land as possible. The state imposes several requirements for administering and passing the perk test. You may need to have your land remapped by a soil scientist to find a suitable area to expand the field lines. It has to be done by a soil scientist or surveyor. the soil is red clay and i do not believe it is perking properly. Realtor says not approved for septic. The only things I have seen around here built on sites without septic are storage units. It seems odd that this one property would not be approved. This map is stating that you have the ability to install a system but it will need to go to the county health department for consideration to establish how large a home is needed. There are several “steps” and those will depend on how you want to deal with this. I have a 4.4 acres of land in Bradley county, TN. Can you recommend anyone that can do a perc test? I am not familiar with a “STEP” system. First, let’s talk about that division. I have no idea what legal recourse you may have to continue to enjoy the use of your property. One thing you can do is install something (an interceptor ditch or berm) to prevent the runoff from getting to the drain field. 1. Septic systems can be installed on lands that meet certain absorption requirements. We wanted to build a new home on the lower section of our property and sale our current house. THE SEPTIC TANK. You can grant easements as needed, but they then become issues if one of you decides to sell and the others don’t like their new neighbors. That is what I thought. As far as I know, you cannot alter the land to make it more suitable for subsurface disposal and if you did, it would have to sit, untouched, for a very long time (7-20 years). http://www.maurycounty-tn.gov/index.aspx?page=69, https://www.williamsoncounty-tn.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1971/WC-regs-cert—Dec-2009?bidId=. 4. All systems in Tennessee must be approved by the Department of Environmental Health before installation. I am selling the land, should it pass a perc test? Your City: ... Is a Soil Test Required? No matter, if you are in possession of a parcel that cannot support a conventional sub-surface disposal system and you still want to build, you can hire an engineer to design something for you. I have tried calling the soils scientist but no response. Our slope was such that the effluent ran off rather than pool, but it was still soggy and muddy. As far as I know, the 100-yr flood does not have an effect on the ability to install a subsurface disposal system. In the end, it is the job of Environmental Health to determine system size, not the soil scientist. And, if so, where can you see this soil map? My house was built in 2004, it used to be farm land, I’m having issues with my septic tank, the next door neighbors land is slopped towards my property and the water run off is flooding my yard. I’m looking at buying some property and building on it in 2-4 yrs. Does that tell if the land has been perked? What does I.P mean and Fill means? It is important to understand the effects of a failing perc test. In addition to houses in Lincoln County, there was also 1 condo, 2 townhouses, and 1 multi-family unit for sale in Lincoln County last month. As far as I know, Tennessee requires a permit for all subsurface disposal systems and that requires knowing the percolation rate of the soil it is being installed into. The home is in bad condition and we wish to demolish and rebuild. Should that test fail, that section of land can no longer be utilized for subsurface disposal. There is no true standard for mapping. I know that several people that had failed perc tests in Lake Tansi have ended up using a “Wisconsin Mound” above ground septic system to build their houses. If it is other than that, you would probably need to hire a soil scientist to make one. Landon Sawyer focuses on building custom homes in Fayetteville and the surrounding areas, including: Taft, Blanche, Flintville, Kelso, Petersburg, Dellrose, and Park City. Some don’t restrict a garage apartment while some do. One is across a creek from the house site, and wouldn’t want to use that one as we wouldn’t want to run the line across the creek. I don’t however have a perc rate which I have repeatedly asked for. Hi Timothy, This is often written as a contingency into a purchase agreement that the land must pass a percolation test and be approved by the local county health department for a conventional septic system. PERC TESTING. of Environmental Health and see what they have on the property. Is that something the environmental health department may know? Provided that the surface isn’t altered (grading, deforesting, etc), a soil map is permanent. To conduct a perc test, first talk to the local health department official as requirements can vary significantly from town to town as far as who can conduct the test, the minimum number of holes, depth of holes, required absorption rates, and when the tests can be performed. We want to be able to rent out the house, it’s stood vacant for years. My question is is there any other way or anything else that can be done to get a house out there? (S)he should be familiar with it and would know where to get the needed usable land for a system. Thanks! They may not have installed the system properly, but they are usually inspected by the health department. Actually, I have not seen a lagoon since I worked in rural Missouri in the late 90s. It is a fairly detailed map showing the zones of different soil types for each section of the property. Now, if the soil scientist who did the map were to be found to be negligent, it may require a new map, but that scenario is highly unlikely. Hello, seems like your the person to answer this question. My family owns some land. Depending on the amount of water left in the hole will govern how the process is supposed to work. Thank you! This is with terms that it perks. I keep seeing some of the comments about a soil map? There are too many factors to be able to accurately answer that question. Kentucky Testing Reports Archive To see reports for all schools for a district in a specific year, please select a year and a district in the list below and click on the Search button. The map I have showes a lot of Dickson loam. 30 Howell Dr is within the school district(s) Lincoln County with nearby schools including South Lincoln Elementary School and Lincoln County â¦ We actually were originally going to build on the other side of the house, but changed plans after he came and found the perk site, so itâs not really his fault. HI, I have a soil test from 2002 with a rating of 75 mpi (wdd) based on a field line installed 24-28 inches in depth and a drain down drain installed around field lines. You would need to clarify with that soil scientist (or check the soil map). I will say that it is usually easier to pass a perc in dry weather when the soils are not saturated. 5. This needs to be addressed by a soil scientist. You may be able to construct your septic system in the power transmission easement, but I am not sure. Contact your soil scientist and have them explain to you why they cannot find suitable land for the reserve area. There are alternatives available if your land doesn’t perc as well as you would like, but these all require to be designed by an engineer. Well, it is actually a percolation test – designed to determine the absorption rate of soils for subsurface disposal systems. It would be built on a ROCK basically, lol. Iâd like to know if it will perc prior to even getting it deeded over to us. Thanks. Nepotism is also a thing, so there’s always that potential situation. Some zones will not allow an additional dwelling on the property. Contact the local Department of Environmental Health. of Environmental Health for your area. Having a percolation test performed on an undeveloped piece of land that you intend to build on BEFORE you buy is a very good idea. Most offices could. How long does it take to get the results back for a perc test? So when we put a a trailer out there will it say on paper only 2 bedroom or will it say passed or failed and we put a bigger trailer if we want to. I hope to start building my home early next year so any help would be great. The build site I want is a little over 200′ away from the soil area. Hello Tim, First of all, Thank you for providing answers for all questions. Will that result let a 3-2 perc for septic? If the person completed the job and someone destroyed the monuments, yes, he is well within his rights to charge whatever he wants. Sawyer Construction. OF THE TENNESSEE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION DIVISION OF WATER RESOURCES 0400-48-01 As far as I know, you can pump your effluent as far as you want. Can you recommend a soil scientist near the Tazewell area? The next step is to take it to the Environmental Health Department to get a septic permit. They would have the records if they were ever turned in. Is this possible if not what is the next step to trying to get it approved for a bigger home. Is there any limit on distance for the backup soil sites being that if first one failed we could pump it to secondary site.Any guess how long it would take to have someone come out and do the perk tests? Fayetteville, TN 37334 (931) 433-2585 State Road . Everyone I know would happily do a cursory soil map to ensure you are getting what is needed to install a septic system. Your first step should be to talk to a surveyor and have them look over your options. Can you recommend a soil scientist near the Tazewell area? You could, but then you could also not get a certificate of occupancy once you have finished building. You must use an approved disposal method. Unfortunately it is known that Williamson County is very difficult to work with, is extremely slow in their processes of approval, and is very biased with who they are willing to serve and make a priority. We have a survey with full GPS coordinates and just recently had important corners flagged. I have also seen constructed wetlands (which I would have thought would be very popular in Florida) and multi-stage systems (using gravel then sand filters). And would it be best if we can be there to at least meet the person doing the testing? On the land, the TVA has an easement for powerlines and a small wetlands area. This allows for the 100% reserve. Is pasture land with Dickson soils considered to be percable? We would be purchasing land together as a whole would land have to be divided before building could start? In Tennessee, if you go below 5 acres for every parcel you are dealing with, it constitutes a subdivision. Each hole shall be considered reasonably representative of a square area of two thousand five hundred (2,500) square feet which includes that hole in the approximate center of the square. We repaired the septic tank, but this was not enough (according to Codes). I’m looking to buy an acre lot in Rutherford county. Is a perc needed BEFORE a pax is comstructed? There has to be a way you are able to remove me from that service? local government, Courthouse, Fayetteville, Lincoln, Tennessee. Me and my wife just bought 28.8 acres in stewart co and have paid for the perc test and are waiting on the inspector to come do it. If you are pumping the effluent offsite, then no. Best action is to contact the department of environmental health and determine what need be done to make it be compliant. We were hoping to build a three bedroom 2 1/2 bathroom. of environmental health is only accepting online applications and not meeting to answer questions, so I am really short on options. There is no obligation to have it surveyed before it is evaluated for a subsurface disposal system. However this has been going on for 3+ years. That is a question for the Department of Environmental Health. 3. Remember, both primary and reserve are necessary for the approval of a system. If you have, you basically have to abandon that square and try another area. It is not the responsibility of the encumbered landowner to secure an easement for the enjoyment of another. Whether or not yours was done this way, I don’t know. Since land isnât in my name, could my mother (land is in her name) have the perc test done with out any type of building permit? During? However, the builder cannot do the perc test. Removing and disposing of domestic septage from septic tanks, holding tanks, portable toilets or other similar sewage treatment or disposal facilities. Either way, it sounds like you should be able to find suitable soils to install a system into. Thanks. And wouldn’t the process of clearing out a wooded area disturb the soil? Soil sites never expire??? This is all new to me, and I’m trying to gather as much information before making a decision! Theoretically, a system would likely be designed based on two people per bedroom. This septic system consists of two basic elements. In soils where the rate is 75 minutes per inch (MPI) or greater, a percolation test must be performed. If your metropolitan area is responsible for building codes and building permits then use this form to fill in city data. I had a friend that had worked with a soil scientist performing perc tests. A soil perc test is usually performed during wet weather or during the wet season - a time that varies depending on where you live. God only knows what he means by “preliminary” perc test. https://www.cudrc.com/departments/operations/wastewater/. The real estate agent says there has been a preliminary perc test done, and it shows the ability to build a 3 bedroom house on the land. Some types of soil require a percolation test to ensure sufficient drainage before a septic system can be installed. USDA phased out the printing of reports after making Web Soil Survey the official source for information in 2005. Tell them the background and see what they say. It is something that can vary widely so you may want to call around. So I have an interesting situation. I then spend the next little bit explaining some things. This might be a perc test for a new building site or a perc test to permit approval of a septic design for a replacement soakbed or drainfield at an existing property whose existing septic fields must be replaced. Surrounded by other homes with septic. A three-bedroom structure could house 6 people. If your drain field is above the septic tank, you may have to have a secondary tank with a pump in it. The property is wooded. 106 College St W Fayetteville, TN 37334 (931) 438-5186 / FAX (931) 438-5187 I am not familiar enough with Rhea county to know what they do and don’t like. I am looking at buying a completely ‘wooded’ 5 acre lot to build a house on. The representative at the Williamson County Sewer Department who I’ve been working with for the past 3 years and getting this process to this point stated “I simply don’t know” “I don’t know what your next processes'” Seriously???? TVA only deals with their land. All of them will need to be designed by a licensed engineer and approved by the Department of Environmental Health. The map labels 3 different soil sites on it and the realtor stated “those are the perc sites”. And did I just misunderstand, is it just simply a leachfield with a fence around it? I don’t know that I have ever had this issue. I’m looking at buying a property and they have already performed a perc test. How would that affect a perk test? is “legal”. The soil survey map I have is from AcreValue so I donât know if it is a high intensity map or not. Any individual or property owner who desires to have a subsurface sewage disposal (septic) system installed on their property or requiring repair to an existing faulty system must get a Septic System Construction Permit. In fact, I would recommend doing this first. It is not illegal to do so. Not as long as the land has not been altered. That is a question for Zoning and Codes Enforcement. They should be able to make sense out of the soil map and guide you in your endeavor. Guidelines 1. of Environmental Health. Is that necessary? 3. The tank can be a single or a double setup, depending on the topography of the land. Does that mean we would have to have 6 perc sites? I receive that call every so often. If there are no sewer connections near us, what other options would we have? I am looking to purchase 5 acres in Cheatham County. Worse case scenario, you can contract with a civil engineer and see if an alternate system would be feasible (both physically and economically). The guy has been a soil engineer for 30+ years, so he knows! The soil survey map I have is from AcreValue so I don’t know if it is a high intensity map or not. Based on that and Appendix 1 of RULES A soil scientist, registered in Tennessee, is the only person who can make the map and determine the soil type (Try out Veronica Mariajarski for a healthy life). Which wouldnât be a problem but I guess we could split off 5 acre tracts and keep the other about 35 acres together. The builder/homeowner should have secured an easement for the drain field. My wife and I are considering the purchase of a home on 5.88 acres that has a septic system and pproved for 3 beds. A good surveyor should be willing to look over the property on paper and discuss your options before you even incur much (if any) of a fee. Also, it may be possible for the soil to have failed because of drains and ditches. It’s overgrown with brush and saplings. Then the “test” is actually done. I do know the mound systems are more expensive, but It has an existing 2 bedroom septic on it. After I originally left a comment I appear to have clicked on the -Notify me when new comments are added- Who should I call to do a perculation test. You would need to talk to the soil scientist who made the map. It appears to be similar to an LPP system. Is it still possible that soil perks despite it being a non conducive type of soil? Apply online using the button below:Apply Online NowYou may also use our printable PDF application forms.Step 2: Return documents to us by email fax or mail to our physical location (see contact information and map below). Contact your local zoning board and determine what your property is zoned and what is allowed in said zone. If you are unable to locate an owner contact Lincoln County Animal Services: (704) 736-4125 2. In addition to houses in Lincoln County, there was also 1 condo, 2 townhouses, and 1 multi-family unit for sale in Lincoln County last month. Honestly, this is definitely a question for your local health department. They want to sell to a developer, but would this be feasable with no more land than 3.5 acres that already has a house on it. Thanks. But what is a perc test, physically? Theoretically, one should not use one unless it is established what it means. The issue is if you want to include a restroom. I called health dept and they looked up the three addresses for the parcels of property and told me they were surveyed in 2003 and found not approved….I believe because of rock issues? Is this legal? There are a multitude of soil types in Tennessee (and around the globe). ... For agronomic information (lawns, gardens, pastures, etc): Soil test information (boxes & information sheets) are provided by our office. Weâve only ever seen the perks refer to bedrooms, never bathroom so we werenât sure what this meant. Whatâs the next step if I want a perc permit? I live abroad and cannot sell the land because it won’t pass the Perc test. Is my first step getting the land perc? Thank you for your assistance? If your soil scientist (the only person in the state) has mapped the entire 11.5 acres and was not able to find suitable land for the 100% reserve area that is not required, then your next option is to contact a civil engineer. Generally speaking, shouldnât the current septic system be able to accommodate our needs? Now, that implies that there have not been any alterations to the land since the map and perc test were done. My understanding is that all perk test are done by outside sources. I bought a 4 acre lot in Humphrey’s county west of Dickson. A rough sketch of the property lines, house site, well location, spring location, planned driveway and utilities as well as directions to the site. Anyone know a tester in Nashville, TN area? When dividing land, you do not have to have health department approval, provided all tracts are at least 5 acres. Would their be a record of it somewhere? Am I correct that this would not require a PERC test for an underground septic system? This is likely at the discretion of your local environmental health department. This map is refreshed with the newest listings in Lincoln County every 15 minutes. Do you see this as a good alternative for a lot that does not perk for a regular in ground septic? On the attached map, there is only one site on the property. Talk to the local environmental health department and find out what they recommend. Are you going to build on a single tract or are you going to divide? If, however, there is more than 6 inches of water remaining in the hole the following day, you reduce it to 6 inches and then measure the rate of absorption at the end of 30 minutes. Thanks! There are several out there, but you will have to have one that is specific to your needs and conditions and I am not an engineer, sorry. Our application forms for new onsite wastewater systems are now online. Applicants may obtain applications and information from the appropriate Environmental Field Office. If your system isn’t failing, they shouln’d be too up in arms about it. The applicant is responsible for following all applicable state statutes and regulations. It has been a day or two since I laid out a septic system. After? If nothing has changed (short of plant growth), then the map is likely still valid and you should be able to build. Would it make any sense to have another soil test done on another area of the property. 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